. >> governor, i mean, to your point, i read it entirely differently from steve. i read it as, i'm probably not going to appoint her -- >> fighting for her. >> i'll get a defense out automatically so that when i don't we don't have to relitigate this again and everyone knows where i stand on my friend susan rice. but you and i talked about this earli earlier, governor and made a bet with a colleague. >> not for $10,000. >> not. >> way more than that. >> you and i agreed against another colleague that if susan rice was put up for nomination we could think of a couple democrats who would oppose her nomination. >> right. >> why would obama waste capital on susan rice when he's got so many other things to worry about right now? >> s.e. makes a good point. the president has to use capital. we need republican cooperation to get anything done in this country, important things. >> right. >> why rip off a scab and an open sore trying to build that cooperation? that's on the one hand. on the other hand, the president i believe, deeply believes that this is unfair but i thin